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Seen and Heard
Interview
Soprano Adrianne
Pieczonka talks about Sieglinde, Lars von Trier, Dan
Akroyd and Avril Lavigne - Interview by Bruce Hodges
Glamorous but down-to-earth, soprano Adrianne Pieczonka made an indelible
mark in the much-celebrated 2001 recording of Falstaff
with Bryn Terfel, and just this past spring made her debut at the
Met as Lisa in Pique Dame, conducted by Valery Gergiev. This
fall she made her first appearances as Sieglinde
in Die Walküre at the Met, again with Mr. Gergiev, to
critical acclaim (including my own). In October we met at the Metropolitan
Opera House, which was teeming with eclectically costumed personnel
rehearsing for Julie Taymor’s new Magic Flute. We managed
to locate a relatively quiet spot where she was generous with her
time, offering spirited, insightful comments on the art of singing,
life in London, film directors, and rock and roll artists she admires.
Her Sieglinde was assembled at the last minute, pulled together from
a minimum of rehearsals, which she didn’t seem to mind in the
least. In any case one would never know it from her masterful performance,
paired with Plácido Domingo as Siegmund. She had worked with
Gergiev before, on Don Carlo in Salzburg, and relishes his
excitement. I asked her about his fluttering hand motions, long a
source of amazement to me. “Yes, we call it ‘the quiver.’
Olga Borodina was with him in Italy two years ago – she’s
worked a lot with him since they’re both Russians. I said I
find it really hard to follow him, and she replied, ‘Dahling,
do not follow maestro – maestro follow you,’
and she’s right. He’s that brilliant. He does follow through
and you just have to trust that. It’s quite amazing. So I was
able to do that, without trying to second-guess him, and it was a
lot more organic.”
Although she has lived in London for six years, she grew up outside
Toronto, where she had little experience with Wagner, fearing she
wasn’t going to like his music. But this changed in 1992 at
the Vienna State Opera, where her first big role was Freia in Rhinegold,
and she began noticing all the myriad motifs in the score. Then came
Eva in Die Meistersinger, which got under her skin, “like
a drug, actually.” She sees herself in the vocal tradition of
Gundula Janowitz, rather than Jessye Norman or Waltraud Meier, and
with that in mind, views Sieglinde as a slightly dangerous role. In
Toronto she did seven performances and fell ill, and is determined
not to have that happen when she makes her debut in a new production
at Bayreuth in 2006.
But first the production needs a director, following the departure
of filmmaker Lars von Trier. Pieczonka expresses admiration for his
work, as well as trepidation: “I love his films, but they’re
kind of scary, too…how he treats women. I think Björk said
of Dancer in the Dark that she nearly suffered a breakdown.
I thought the film was extremely hard to take – I just couldn’t
bear it, basically, with all the pain and suffering. I just saw Dogville
with Nicole Kidman – it’s very black – and again
Nicole suffers. It starts off very benign but gets very insidious.
But you have to hand it to him: it’s three-and-a-half hours,
and I loved it.”
Her very first role was in Shostakovich’s Lady Macbeth of
Mtsensk, in the chorus, before she received a grant in 1988 to
study in Europe. Although she clearly loves her native country, she
dreamed of time in Europe with the opportunities to tackle more substantial
roles. As luck would have it, she was hired by the Vienna Volksoper,
doing Countess Tatiana [Eugene Onegin] Donna Elvira [Don
Giovanni] and delighted, cautiously, to be doing major roles
in her twenties. At the time she found Vienna less than enchanting,
much different from the modern trendsetting climate it has today:
“I was very miserable for the first year-and-a-half. They really
put me through my paces. It was grueling, but I paid my dues. I’m
going back after about six years of not having sung there, singing
Ariadne in 2005 and Arabella with Thomas Hampson
in 2006.”
She adores the Canadian director Robert Carson, with whom she worked
on Der Rosenkavalier in 2003, and conducted by Semyon Bychkov
following the death of Giuseppe Sinopoli and Christian Thielemann’s
subsequent cancellation. The production was widely panned, despite
her own enthusiasm. As I mention the Spanish director Calixto Bieito,
whose recent sex-and-drugs-filled Don
Giovanni in London was called by one writer “the
most reviled production in the recent history of British theatre,”
Pieczonka grins and shakes her head, knowing full well she could never
work with him. She feels that Carson’s work, on the other hand,
occasionally contains sex, but married with truth – still unconventional
for some opera companies, but nevertheless well considered.
Her apartment overlooks the Thames, where she finds space to roam,
jog, play tennis and relax: “Maybe I’m getting older,
but maybe I just want to be in my lovely home, and be among my nice
things and my friends. I have a beautiful view, and there’s
a lovely path for running or walking and lots of pubs along the way
to pop in for a quick pint and get the paper. I live in the sort of
green, leafy outskirts, and have a car to get outside of town very
quickly.”
But she has quickly become enamored of New York City, which she admires
for its compact neighborhoods, and loves to visit Lincoln Center,
Carnegie Hall, and Broadway theatres: “I’m a huge musical
fan. When I arrived last spring I got tickets to Gypsy, The
Producers with Matthew [Broderick] and Nathan [Lane], and went
to Carnegie to hear Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg [with the Minnesota Orchestra]
– blew me away! It was just so cool. The audience was so appreciative
and the orchestra was so dynamic – I thought it was the best
thing.”
Her appearance in Tchaikovsky’s Pique Dame at the Met
last spring perhaps surprised some listeners, as perhaps did her delicious
performance in the triumphant recording of Falstaff, starring
Bryn Terfel, conducted by Claudio Abbado, whom she calls “…the
sweetest man. It was a dream to work with him. Basically [Angela]
Georghiu was going to do the role, and couldn’t, so I got asked
and was thrilled because I knew the role. We didn’t have a lot
of time, maybe four days. Abbado knows what he wants to do and is
very methodical. Working with Bryn, Dorothea [Röschmann], Tom
[Hampson], the young tenor [Daniil] Shtoda, Larissa [Diadkova]…we
had a hoot. Claudio loves clarity, and it’s very clean. He encouraged
me to lighten up. I think on the stage I beef it up a bit, and he
wanted it very clean, sort of ‘less is more’ – a
more elegant reading of it.” This is especially apparent in
delicate moments such as the famous Pizzica! section, where
this light approach works perfectly.
The conversation turns to Abbado’s precarious health. “We
were all extremely concerned. He was bone-thin. I believe he had stomach
cancer, and had his stomach removed. He would have to eat little tidbits,
so he’d have a bar of chocolate, and then do something for twenty
minutes, and then have two grapes. He had to keep feeding himself
and drink lots of water, and he looked exhausted. I thought, ‘He’s
going to keel over…you could blow him over.’ And
yet somehow, when he lifted his baton, he had the energy to do it.
I really respected him, and was very motivated by his spirit, and
his strength and courage.”
The subject turns to recitals, which she enjoys, but unlike some artists
she prefers not to switch gears while she’s immersed in an operatic
role. She loves Richard Strauss, and a very wide palette of others
including Barber, Ives, Copland and other 20th and 21st-century composers,
as well as Schumann, Schubert, Faure, Poulenc, Tchaikovsky and Brahms.
In March, she plans a solo recording with the Bavarian State Orchestra
of Strauss and Wagner, partially to solve the problem of fans crowding
into a shop and pleading, “Do you have any Pieczonka recordings?”
– and not finding any. (In addition to Falstaff, she
has also done Don Giovanni, and one of her particular favorites
on which she appears is a three-disc set of the complete orchestral
songs by Richard Strauss, on the Nightingale label, with a roster
of stars including Kurt Moll, Edita Gruberova.)
Working with Gruberova is one of her fondest memories. “It was
great. We recorded Die Fledermaus together in Budapest, but
I also worked with her in Barcelona, in Ariadne auf Naxos
two years ago (and also my first Ariadne). She was doing
Zerbinetta for the hundredth time, and it was the 25th anniversary
of her being at the Liceu, and they celebrated her one evening. All
of a sudden, people threw flowers, notes…they just adore her
there. To be able to sing in her 50s is like no one else. We’ll
do it again in Vienna next year, so I’m looking forward to that.
She’s truly a legend. The voice is getting better, if anything.
She’s such a technician. I think it takes a lot of sacrifice,
and I don’t know if I’ll be like that. Edita wants to
sing, wants the voice to be her main focus and I don’t know
if I’ll have the discipline or drive, since I might be getting
into teaching, but who knows? But I do respect it.” She ultimately
plans to teach voice, and is flattered by requests from those who
want to study with her, and won’t rule out a position at a university.
On Ms.Pieczonka’s web
site there is a touching photo of her and the Valkyries,
during a rehearsal for the Canadian Opera Company’s Die
Walküre, and in the center of the picture is the legendary
Anna Russell. “She came in to see the dress rehearsal –
she’s about 90! – looking lovely, and I had never met
her, so she signed all of our scores and told anecdotes. She’s
quick as a whip – laughs, tells funny stories – it was
great, and she enjoyed all this interest. She lives in Canada, either
in Toronto or nearby, and maybe in a retirement home, but still looks
very lovely. She was in a wheelchair but seemed very healthy. It was
an honor.”
Canadian artists, whether classical or otherwise, are keen on Pieczonka’s
radar. She loves the members of Kids in the Hall, and her
face lights up when I mention Dan Akroyd, Catherine O’Hara,
Dana Carvey, Mike Myers and others who have become huge stars outside
of Canada. She likes writers such as Robertson Davies and has devoured
all of Margaret Atwood’s books, citing the upcoming production
of The Handmaid’s Tale in Toronto. She hopes to meet
Atwood sometime, having heard through the grapevine that she likes
opera.
So what does an opera star listen to when she’s not onstage?
“I listen to a lot of Handel, a lot of orchestral music, but
not opera. When I’m in London I’ll listen to the Met broadcasts
when I’m cooking, but I rarely sit down and say, ‘I’ll
listen to Lucia tonight or something,’ or even put
it on in the background. It makes me nervous! I love Barber’s
Adagio for Strings, Brahms’ Fourth, Beethoven’s
Fifth – although it’s perhaps not cool to say
it – and Mahler. I’m maybe a little kitschy. I had a massage
the other day, and the music was Rodrigo’s Concierto de
Aruanjuez – beautiful!” But Adrianne’s tastes
are diverse enough to encompass Avril Lavigne, Sarah McLachlan, Joni
Mitchell, Neil Young, The Strokes, The White Stripes – “good
music for running or working out to!” – and a band little
known in the U.S. called Scissor Sisters.
As we conclude, she mentions some of her future plans, including Tosca
in 2008 in Los Angeles with Neil Schicoff, conducted by Plácido
Domingo and possibly directed by Anthony Hopkins. Caution reigns.
Adrianne displays a prudent approach to keeping her voice healthy
and doesn’t feel compelled to sing everything. She has considered
Fidelio but hasn’t bitten so far; two years ago she
was offered Isolde at Glyndebourne and turned it down. At the moment
she finds the Russian and Czech repertoire, as well as Verdi, to be
highly satisfying.
As I pack up my tape recorder, Schicoff himself wanders by (appearing
as Don José in Carmen the following evening) and gives
a friendly hello, followed by a slightly scary facial expression complete
with darting tongue. Adrianne jokes (speaking of Anthony Hopkins)
that perhaps he might want to eat our livers. Somehow I suspect that
the Los Angeles Tosca may be quite something.
Bruce Hodges
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