Charles Villiers Stanford: Man and Musician 
              
by Jeremy Dibble (Oxford 2002, 535 pp) £65 
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              Charles Villiers Stanford
              by Paul Rodmell (Ashgate 2002, 495 pp) £57.50 
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              These two books have been reviewed for the site 
                by Chris Fifield, who took the occasion to present a quite detailed 
                summary of Stanford’s career. If you can’t stretch to either of 
                these studies, or wouldn’t have time to read them, then go to 
                his review for your basic information on Stanford. The following 
                comments will be dedicated to some considerations arising from 
                the books.
              
              PREVIOUS BOOKS
              
              Paul Rodmell shows justifiable pride in the fact 
                that his is the first full-length study of Stanford since 1935, 
                though he must certainly have been aware that Jeremy Dibble’s 
                book had been in the making ever since he finished his work on 
                Parry in 1992. Dibble, evidently aware that he was going to lose 
                this particular race, makes no special claims. In the event it 
                hardly matters; history will remember that they came out in tandem 
                during the composer’s 150th anniversary year.
              
              That no study had been made since 1935 suggests 
                that the book in question, Charles Villiers Stanford by 
                Harry Plunket Greene (Edward Arnold 1935), must have been a pretty 
                definitive affair, but in reality it has long been a source of 
                frustration to the composer’s admirers, a declaredly partial "Stanford-as-I-knew-him" 
                account by one of his closest friends, prepared in collaboration 
                with Stanford’s widow. It is hazy – when not freely inventive 
                – on dates and chronology, the style is patently not that of a 
                professional writer (Greene was one of the leading baritones of 
                his day), yet it is eminently readable and paints an affectionate 
                and attractive portrait of Stanford the man. Too attractive? Of 
                the many friends, colleagues and professional contacts of the 
                composer who have left some sort of memorial in print, a fair 
                number corroborate Greene’s portrait, but alongside these are 
                the many whom he succeeded in alienating – most famously Elgar 
                – and who quite frankly couldn’t stand the sight of him. Greene 
                doesn’t entirely suppress this fact, but he bends over backwards 
                to demonstrate that Stanford was in every case the injured party. 
                To be fair to Greene, the sort of "warts-and-all" study 
                we expect today was not normal practice at the time, when public 
                men were invariably commemorated with an "X-as-I-knew-him" 
                apologia by a friend or family member. These accounts have little 
                hard value today except as source material for researchers.
              
              Previous to this one other book had appeared, 
                Charles Villiers Stanford by John F. Porte (Kegan Paul 
                1921), which consisted basically of an introduction and a commented 
                catalogue, in order of opus number, of Stanford’s works. This 
                is a fumbling affair, riddled with inaccuracies, heavy in style, 
                and obviously lacks information about the last few years. However, 
                while it is not definitely stated whether the composer gave Porte 
                any assistance, occasional comments seem to show a degree of inside 
                knowledge, so the book cannot be wholly disregarded. Unfortunately, 
                as late as the 1950s it still formed the basis of the catalogue 
                of Stanford’s works in Grove V. The cataloguing of Stanford’s 
                music was taken up by Frederick Hudson whose "Revised and 
                Extended Catalogue of C. V. Stanford" appeared in Music Review 
                in 1976 and the German MGG encyclopaedia, and thence the New Grove. 
                Alas, this was still very much "work in progress" and 
                contained numerous errors and omissions. However, in the ensuing 
                years, up until his recent death, Hudson made handsome amends, 
                creating the Stanford Archive in the Robinson Library of Newcastle 
                University. The intention, largely realised, was to amass as complete 
                a collection of Stanford material as possible in one place. To 
                this end he persuaded the owners of many autograph scores and 
                other documents to donate or deposit them with the Archive, to 
                which were added photocopies of much other material and a virtually 
                complete run of printed scores, in originals or photocopies. At 
                the same time his catalogue continued to expand, and those who 
                have seen it testify that it is a very scholarly piece of work, 
                with maximum information about performances, dedicatees etc. of 
                each piece. It was virtually completed by the time of his death 
                and it would be nice to think it could be published one day. I 
                have not seen the catalogue in the latest New Grove but I understand 
                it is based on Hudson’s final researches revised by Dibble, and 
                so presume it is similar to the catalogue which appears in Dibble’s 
                own book.
              
              For completeness John Fuller Maitland’s The 
                Music of Parry and Stanford (Heffer & Sons 1934) should 
                be mentioned, and more recently Gerald Norris has published Stanford, 
                the Cambridge Jubilee and Tchaikovsky (David & Charles 
                1980). This is a racy, readable affair which has to be considered 
                a secondary source in that it seems to be the product of extensive 
                reading of contemporary literature (singers’ memoirs and the like), 
                taking the dates and facts on trust rather than checking them 
                by research. And, last but not least, there is Stanford’s own 
                autobiography Pages from an Unwritten Diary (Edward Arnold 
                1914) and two other books which bring together most of the articles 
                he wrote for various magazines: Studies and Memories (Constable 
                1908) and Interludes, Records and Reflections (Murray 1922). 
              
              
              Pages, in particular, makes for very pleasant 
                reading, but Stanford clearly has no wish to bare himself before 
                the public. After a charming account of his family and the Dublin 
                of his youth the book is very much a collection of often vivid 
                portraits of people he met in the course of his career, and possibly 
                more useful for the researcher wanting information about them 
                than for those who wish to know about him. We gather that 
                he was passionately dedicated to obtaining a square deal for his 
                profession, both in terms of recognition and money-wise, and to 
                having his countries’ (both England’s and Ireland’s) musical achievements 
                recognised abroad, and to the cause of opera in England, but that 
                is about it. His family life is kept a closed door and his wife 
                is nowhere mentioned.
              
              PROBLEMS FOR THE BIOGRAPHER
              
              One reason why it has taken so long for a new 
                biography to appear is that Stanford’s stock was so low during 
                much of the post-war period that any book written between 1945 
                and 1985 would almost certainly not have found a publisher. Another 
                is that anyone considering the task quickly found out that it 
                would be far from easy, much harder than in the case of Parry. 
              
              
              Parry conveniently left a diary covering almost 
                the whole of his life, and also kept most of his letters. For 
                virtually any date we know where he was, what he was doing and 
                what he thought about it. Moreover, his descendents remain at 
                Shulbrede Priory and his papers have been maintained there, so 
                we also know where to look for the basic facts. 
              
              Already in 1935 Plunket Greene had to admit defeat 
                in assembling a chronological account. Stanford almost certainly 
                kept no diary (none was found) and seems to have kept a "clean 
                desk", throwing away letters as he answered them, maintaining 
                only a small scrap book of letters from particularly famous people 
                (Greene assures us that "a most thorough search" was 
                made for further correspondence). Plenty of letters from Stanford 
                were made available to Greene, from which it emerged that he only 
                began to date them from the mid-80s. All this led Greene to "abandon 
                the idea of historical sequence and to deal with the Life roughly 
                by periods and subjects".
              
              Admirers of Stanford have been cursing him ever 
                since! To be fair, our notions of research have become more rigorous 
                over the years, but the very paucity of concrete material made 
                it all the more imperative to puzzle out the facts while there 
                were still people around who might remember them. Clearly, things 
                haven’t got any easier today. Even such material as Greene had 
                has partly disappeared, including a series of letters (which he 
                mentions but does not directly quote) between Stanford and his 
                father regarding his future wife and the letters from Stanford 
                to Greene himself, of which he blandly remarks "Some of them, 
                most reluctantly, I cannot quote – he was ever a fighter". 
                Both Dibble and Rodmell state their belief that this material 
                was destroyed during the 1950s. For another difference with Parry 
                is that there are no direct descendants. Stanford’s two children, 
                Geraldine and Guy, both died childless and he himself was an only 
                child (but his wife came from a family of nine, so what about 
                the relations on that side?). Rodmell tells us that the wills 
                of the two children make no mention of papers and that their interests 
                in Stanford’s copyrights were bequeathed to the British Empire 
                Cancer Campaign and the Royal School of Church Music, suggesting 
                that any remaining relatives were distant and uninterested.
              
              Rodmell has located some 800 surviving letters 
                from Stanford; he makes a conservative estimate that he must have 
                written at least 28,000 during his adult life. It would be interesting 
                to have a selection of these published one day, together with 
                some of his many letters to the press, though the absence of the 
                letters which provoked them or replied to them would be limiting. 
                From those quoted by both authors, however, it appears that the 
                letters do not reveal much about the man; many of them deal with 
                practical matters such as terms and conditions for performances 
                and publication of his music. If he ever made even such a conventional 
                cry from the heart as "oh, how I long to get away from it 
                all for a few weeks" (though he did get away from 
                it all, with his family, for a few weeks after his mother died), 
                suffered from Tchaikovsky-like doubts about the adequacy of his 
                own talent, underwent existential, religious or marital crises, 
                not a trace of it survives and any friend who knew kept his mouth 
                tight shut. 
              
              So what is the biographer to do? Clearly, a great 
                number of facts can be discovered about the society in which he 
                lived, the people who surrounded him and the music he may have 
                heard. One part of his life is all on the public record since 
                he had an active career as a pianist and organist (in his earlier 
                days) and, more notably, as a conductor (almost to the end of 
                his life) and held appointments with major institutions. He frequently 
                wrote letters to the press and, while he left no evidence in words 
                regarding his inner life, he scrupulously dated his scores. So, 
                on a superficial level it is possible to reconstruct his life, 
                and both Rodmell and Dibble have painstakingly done all this. 
                Do they get us any nearer to the man himself?
              
              THE EARLY YEARS
              
              To start with his early life, both Stanford himself 
                and Greene painted a glowing portrait of the Dublin they had both 
                known and loved, and a modern author could not hope to match this 
                "I was there" quality. What both Rodmell and Dibble 
                have managed to do is to check out the facts (Stanford and Greene 
                mostly relied on memory) and to discuss with the benefit of historical 
                perspective the position of the Anglo-Irish Dublin community of 
                which Stanford was a part. We can now put Stanford’s more personalised 
                account into its proper context.
              
              And yet, though their researches have led to 
                broadly similar results, there are two intriguing differences. 
                Rodmell gives the genealogical tree for both of Stanford’s parents; 
                Dibble doesn’t actually give it in tabulated form but has obviously 
                studied the matter. Both agree that the earliest Stanford about 
                whom we have definite knowledge and from whom Stanford’s own lineage 
                can be traced was a Luke Stanford of County Cavan who died in 
                1733. Rodmell assumes that this Stanford was of English origin 
                and suggests that a Luke Stanford born in London in 1633 may have 
                been the father of the County Cavan Stanford. Whereas Dibble, 
                relying on information supplied by one of Stanford’s surviving 
                relations, Eileen le Clerc, notes that a Robert de Stanford had 
                been a prior at Christ Church Dublin between 1242 and 1263. This 
                may be wishful thinking on le Clerc’s part and it is unlikely 
                that either hypothesis can be proved now, but it is interesting 
                that the English/Irish contradiction in Stanford rears its head 
                so early in the tale, Rodmell’s theory making him basically an 
                Englishman while Dibble allows for the possibility that his roots 
                may be more purely Irish and above all Celtic.
              
              Two other fascinating points, which only Dibble 
                tells us, are that Stanford’s father John had been previously 
                married to one Harriet Green, presumed to have died young and 
                childless (but as he was 41 when he married Stanford’s future 
                mother the marriage needn’t have been that short), and that Stanford 
                had an elder brother who died young. This last point is potentially 
                important. How young? Could Stanford himself have had any 
                memories of him? If not, was he ever told that he had had an elder 
                brother, and at what age? Here are a number of questions which 
                can probably never be answered, yet which might have a profound 
                bearing on Stanford’s family life and psychological make-up. Could 
                their implications not have been explored a little further, at 
                least to establish the age at which the brother died?
              
              HIS ADULT LIFE
              
              Both authors seem to agree that, in the absence 
                of any knowledge of Stanford’s inner life, his career is mapped 
                out by certain external events which give rise to new chapters: 
                the move to Cambridge, the Royal College appointment and subsequent 
                move from Cambridge, the Leeds Festival and the war. Thus the 
                two accounts are structurally similar, though since there are 
                intriguing differences in their choice of quotations from his 
                surviving letters they do not duplicate one another and I would 
                not be without either. In the last resort, though, the man walks 
                on and off stage, doing his job and composing his music, and it 
                seems impossible to get any closer to him than that. In essence 
                his life is an account of pieces written, performances played 
                and conducted, appointments he held, lessons he gave and people 
                he quarrelled with. Thanks to this latter, the story never becomes 
                dull, whichever version you read, for, as one of his friends said, 
                "Charlie will have his quarrel". However, in the interests 
                of correcting Greene’s rosy picture, I feel that Rodmell in particular 
                has gone out of his way to make him appear as unpleasant as possible. 
                Greene’s view of him as an impulsive, irascible but nonetheless 
                loveable grown-up schoolboy was shared by many of his friends 
                and I am convinced that those who left such opinions in print 
                genuinely felt like that – as did those who considered him a trouble-maker, 
                a climber or even a sham.
              
              I also feel that certain passages from Greene 
                regarding Stanford’s family life and recreational activities might 
                have been referred to more extensively (they are barely mentioned). 
                After all, counterbalancing Greene is all very well if the reader 
                has a copy of Greene, but since the book is long out of print 
                and little would be served by reissuing it, in view of its inaccuracies, 
                perhaps its more valuable parts might have been drawn on more 
                extensively. All the same, both authors produce thoroughly readable 
                accounts.
              
              THE MUSIC
              
              Both writers have elected to incorporate their 
                discussions of the music in the main part of the text, discussing 
                the works as they come up in the story. Rodmell, however, adds 
                some chapters at the end in which he attempts to sum up Stanford’s 
                achievement as a conductor, teacher and composer.
              
              Rodmell admits in the preface that he has a particular 
                interest in the operas, which he discusses in great detail, though 
                it is sad that, in his view, Savanarola and Lorenza, 
                are total write-offs. Dibble, while admitting their shortcomings, 
                is rather more positive. In all truth, it is practically impossible 
                to judge an opera without having seen a first-class production 
                of it in the theatre, and I just hope that Rodmell won’t put anyone 
                off trying!
              
              Rodmell also gives very detailed accounts of 
                the Symphonies, Rhapsodies and several other orchestral works, 
                and I was happy to see him speaking up for the Mass in G (which 
                Dibble barely mentions). On the other hand, he doesn’t seem very 
                much interested in the chamber music, dismissing it as "opaque". 
                The only string quartet I have actually heard played is no.8, 
                which didn’t sound opaque at all; to judge from the scores I don’t 
                see why the first three should do so either; indeed, no.3 is very 
                lean, almost spare in its scoring, though I would agree with those 
                commentators who have found it less thematically distinguished 
                than the first two. These latter, not mentioned by Rodmell, have 
                collected plaudits from writers as different as Bernard Shaw, 
                Thomas F. Dunhill and Geoffrey Bush. Two other works which have 
                been much praised over the years are the First Piano Trio and 
                the Second Cello Sonata, in view of which something more detailed 
                than "Stanford falls victim to his periodic prolixity" 
                seems called for. 
              
              Having made a particular study of the songs I 
                had hoped to find here amplification or at least corroboration 
                of my knowledge; here too, Rodmell seems only fitfully interested. 
                Typical is his paragraph on "Cushendall":
              
               
                 
                  Cushendall, which comprises six songs 
                    to words by John Stevenson, was Stanford’s first collection 
                    of Irish songs since An Irish Idyll and, like the earlier 
                    work, does not really succeed. Three of the songs, "Did 
                    you ever?", "The Crow" and "Daddy-long-legs", 
                    are bland affairs; the quotation of Brunnhilde’s Fire motif 
                    in the latter at "You try to moderate your legs in lamp 
                    or candle flame" sits incongruously in its surroundings, 
                    and while Stevenson’s comparison of a crow with a lawyer would 
                    have tickled Stanford, his setting did not add to the poetry. 
                    The other three, "Ireland", "Cushendall" 
                    and "How does the wind blow?", are better but still 
                    lack intensity; "Cushendall", with its long procession 
                    of secondary sevenths, has a gentle sense of sorrow, but the 
                    climax, despite the poignancy of the words for Stanford, fails 
                    to hit the mark [two lines of music are quoted] (p.261).
                  
                
              
              These are just opinions; what we want to know 
                is, who was John Stevenson, what was Stanford trying to do and 
                by what means did he try to do it? In the light of this, it might 
                be possible to suggest whether he succeeded or failed. I shall 
                not attempt to counteract Rodmell simply by replacing his "bland" 
                with adjectives which describe my own reactions to the music since, 
                unsupported by analysis, my opinions are worth neither more nor 
                less than his: that is to say, nothing at all. Furthermore, Rodmell 
                must have been so cheesed off by the time he got to the end of 
                the sixth song that he didn’t even notice that it is followed 
                by a seventh, "Night" (though this is correctly listed 
                in the worklist at the end of the book).
              
              I feel that Rodmell’s approach to the music is 
                weakened by two assumptions. One is that since he is a critic 
                he has to criticise, and the other is that he takes the "old 
                school" view that Stanford was basically a pretty poor composer; 
                the sum of his two attitudes means that, for each work discussed, 
                he applies a sort of Napoleonic critical code, starting from the 
                assumption that there must be something the matter with it and 
                then tries to find out what it is. This leads, for example, to 
                his observation that "The Blue Bird" is "little 
                short of perfection". Many of us have believed over the years 
                that this, of all Stanford’s works, actually was perfect; since 
                Rodmell has evidently detected a chink in the armour somewhere 
                I feel he might have told us what it is. To be fair, however, 
                he is often perceptive with regard to those works for which he 
                evidently feels sympathy, for example in his defence of the structure 
                of the Irish Symphony’s finale.
              
              Dibble is much more evenhanded; it is nice that 
                he can find space to describe, for example, the Harold Boulton 
                volume which contains "For ever mine", for it is these 
                little corners that bring illumination to the reader. He seems 
                to hold the viewpoint that Stanford was actually a rather good 
                composer and consequently applies habeus corpus,  trying 
                to appreciate his aims and methods. I felt his Parry book suffered 
                from an obsession with the idea that musical analysis means listing 
                all the keys a particular work goes through and he has not lost 
                this particular vice, but you can skip those parts. In general, 
                as readers of his notes for a goodly number of CDs will know, 
                he is a helpful guide to what is still unknown territory for most 
                listeners. 
              
              GENERAL SUMMING UP
              
              Having reached the end of Stanford’s life, Dibble 
                concludes with a minimum of general comment, indeed, his ending 
                seems a little abrupt; in a further section of some 70 pages Rodmell 
                attempts to sum up Stanford’s achievement. 
              
              His conclusions on Stanford as a conductor are 
                unexceptionable except that, in assessing a conductor’s work, 
                it would be a normal practice to take into consideration any recordings 
                he made, yet Rodmell nowhere mentions (and neither does Dibble 
                for that matter) the two sessions which Stanford cut in 1916 and 
                1923. These have never been transferred to CD but in 1974 Pearl 
                issued an LP containing what they believed to be the complete 
                recordings, though a reference to John Holmes’s massive study 
                of conductors shows that some sides had not been located since 
                Stanford recorded the First Irish Rhapsody complete (Pearl gave 
                us only the first part) and a part of the Irish Symphony (not 
                present on the disc). Admittedly this is evidence to be approached 
                with caution since the sound is obviously primitive and the anonymous 
                (pick up?) orchestra used in 1916 is ropy, but it gains in cohesion 
                as the sessions advance, which surely tells us something, and 
                Stanford’s steady tempo in the Rhapsody shows that he did not 
                want it to sound like an Irish jig (Vernon Handley please note!). 
                The 1923 recording of Songs of the Fleet is rather mysterious 
                since there seems to be no precise date, but it was apparently 
                made late in the year when Stanford had only a few months to live 
                and had officially retired from conducting. At times he seems 
                rather questionably in charge, but he also insists on points of 
                string articulation in The Song of the Sou’ Wester which Norman 
                Del Mar passes over in his EMI recording and adopts a freely rumbustious 
                approach to The Little Admiral which sometimes catches the players 
                by surprise. So at least some audible evidence of his methods 
                exists.
              
              The list of Stanford’s pupils is generally considered 
                to be proof in itself of his effectiveness as a teacher and Rodmell 
                gives us a "selective" (but pretty extensive nonetheless) 
                list of them. He also gives an interesting list of the appointments 
                held by Stanford’s pupils, showing that the British musical world 
                (and beyond if we consider Bainton and Hart in Australia and Friskin 
                at the Julliard School) was dominated by RCM/Stanford products 
                at least until 1945. He quotes extensively from the memories of 
                many of these, then turns devil’s advocate, suggesting that it 
                was Stanford’s good luck, because of his strategic position at 
                the RCM, to have a run of such brilliant names that no teacher 
                could have failed with them. However, he concludes that "Although 
                one could not attribute the extent of Stanford’s influence to 
                a design of his own making, without him the direction taken by 
                British composers in the first half of the twentieth century might 
                have been very different".
              
              Rodmell then turns to the music itself. In view 
                of the fact that Stanford held that good orchestral music must 
                sound effective on the piano (in other words it must not depend 
                on orchestral colour to make it sound better than it is) perhaps 
                he would not have been unduly flattered by the fact that Rodmell 
                singles out his orchestration as one of his particularly successful 
                points. And yet it is true; the experience of hearing a performance 
                with orchestra of a choral/orchestral work which one has only 
                known in vocal score can be remarkable, the richness and the colour 
                adding a dimension one would not have suspected. The first part 
                of Rodmell’s chapter on "Stanford the Composer" concludes 
                that there is "a mode of expression which can be highly individual 
                and unmistakably Stanfordian"; he points in particular to 
                the composer’s use of appoggiatura and of flatwards modulation. 
                There is still an infinite amount of work to be done here but 
                these are certainly valid starting points.
              
              Rodmell next considers Stanford’s claims to be 
                considered Irish. The whole question of nationality and music 
                is fraught with pitfalls, and if the question of the Anglo-Irish 
                status (were they English or Irish?) is added, then politics enter 
                the picture as well. I may be naïve, but it seems to me that 
                things have come to a pretty pass if a man whose Irish ancestors 
                can be traced back to at least 1733 cannot be considered an Irishman 
                of some sort. By this argument, most of the men who shaped the 
                rise of American music during the 20th Century were 
                not Americans at all!
              
              Perhaps this is all a red herring. A more profitable 
                line of inquiry might be to seek the common characteristics of 
                composers who have a proven Celtic lineage and then see if Stanford’s 
                music shares these characteristics. Stanford the Celt, as opposed 
                to Stanford the Irishman, is not discussed by Rodmell.
              
              Finally, Rodmell assesses the decline of Stanford’s 
                reputation, and produces two interesting tables showing the years 
                in which various works by Stanford were withdrawn from sale, and 
                the sales of vocal scores of The Revenge from 1886 down to 1974. 
                This information comes from the Novello Archive in the BL; it’s 
                a pity that similar information from Stanford’s other publishers 
                was not available. For example in about 1972, when I set about 
                buying copies of all that remained in print, whereas Novello and 
                Boosey had precious little left in their catalogues, Stainer & 
                Bell still had a large selection, so it would be interesting to 
                know how much of it they were actually selling. This chapter concludes 
                with a discussion of certain points which have dogged Stanford’s 
                reputation over the years; his fluency, the anachronistic nature 
                of his style and his respectability. I must say I find much of 
                this general summing up repetitive and inconclusive and I wonder 
                if any of us really know the music 
                enough yet – and over a long enough period for it to be a part 
                of us in the way that Brahms or Dvořák are – to be able to 
                make the sort of sweeping conclusions at which Rodmell aims. I 
                suggest Dibble was wise to avoid such an attempt.
              
              Both authors provide a worklist. Rodmell’s is 
                a "Select list of works" in chronological order, which 
                means all those with opus numbers plus a fair number of others 
                inserted among them. Unfortunately he gives many titles without 
                any indication as to what the work actually is, so the reader 
                faced with Lorenza, Prince Madoc’s Farewell, Phaudrig Crohoore 
                and Six Elizabethan Pastorals is left to find out as 
                best he may that they are, respectively, an opera, a song for 
                voice and piano, a cantata for chorus and orchestra and pieces 
                for unaccompanied SATB choir. Some of this information can be 
                hunted down in the body of the text, but not all. Composition 
                dates and the whereabouts of the manuscript are given; where the 
                manuscript is missing and the date is printed at the foot of the 
                printed score he sometimes includes it but a good many more completion 
                dates could have been obtained this way (see below). Likewise, 
                in the cases where the only clue we have to the composition date 
                is the date of publication, he sometimes includes it but more 
                often does not. He gives the original publishers, but frequently 
                gives them wrongly, and the date of the first performance. Here, 
                too, his information often clashes with Dibble’s though I am in 
                most cases unable to say who is right. He also gives a list of 
                CDs currently available and I feel that this is just wasted space; 
                the shelf life of a book will probably be for the remainder of 
                the owner’s life and beyond while the CD scene is very volatile 
                and the list is out of date even now. A search in Internet or 
                a visit to a good dealer will provide the interested reader with 
                information as to what is available at any given moment.
              
              Dibble’s worklist is by category and aims to 
                be complete (I have detected a few omissions and errors; see below). 
                For evident reasons of space the layout is cluttered and details 
                of individual pieces in a set (for example the single songs in 
                a cycle) are not given. Both authors provide, as well as a general 
                index, a separate index of references to specific works. Using 
                this has alerted me to a possible problem with Dibble. Having 
                begun his discussion of the works and activities of Stanford in 
                a specific year, he then proceeds, maybe for several pages, "on 
                February 7th … three weeks later …. In early May …. 
                Towards the end of the following month". This is fine when 
                you are reading the book consecutively, but I suspect that most 
                readers, having read it once, will use it above all as a reference 
                book, and at times, having looked up a reference, I had to go 
                back several pages to see which year he is talking about. I wonder 
                if a future edition might revise this point?
              
              I have the impression that the 150th 
                anniversary year arrived all too quickly for both authors. A further 
                reading might have weeded out such repetitions as "over the 
                succeeding years his involvement with Cambridge had steadily reduced, 
                such that his involvement had come down to the bare minimum" 
                (Rodmell p.326), not to speak of the following account of a posthumous 
                holiday by Mr. and Mrs. Liszt (or is it an early death by Stanford?):
              
               
                 
                  Liszt left London for Bayreuth but by the 
                    time Stanford arrived there to hear performances of Tristan 
                    and Parsifal under Mottl in August he was dead. 
                    After Bayreuth he and his wife spent some time in Berchtesgaden 
                    … (Dibble p.177).
                  
                
              
              Fifield has already pointed out Jennie Stanford’s 
                "heeling the rift" with Parry (Rodmell p.64), with its 
                delightful image of her forcing both men into line with a sharp 
                dig from her stilettos, or whatever small women wore those days, 
                but better still is "The Handy Norsewoman" (instead 
                of "Hardy"; Rodmell p.330). Who needed Jennie Stanford 
                when he had that?
              
              Worse than these obvious slips, there is an alarming 
                number of discrepancies between the two books over dates and even 
                quite important facts, such as the Stanfords’ honeymoon or whether 
                the music to Queen Mary was eventually performed or not. I had 
                intended to add a list of these as a footnote, but there are so 
                many – well into triple figures - and this review is already so 
                long that I have decided to post it as a separate article. Seriously, 
                I hope both authors will see this list and check their sources 
                in the hope that future editions might be more accurate.
              
              So which to buy? If you’re really keen on Stanford, 
                each has important information not included in the other. If it 
                must be only one, then Dibble has a remarkable knack of inserting 
                maximum information in a single sentence, a more even treatment 
                of the works and a fuller worklist. And where to go from here? 
                As far as the life is concerned, unless some new source of exceptional 
                interest were to come to light, it would probably be superfluous 
                for a third writer to enter the lists, if only the discrepancies 
                referred to above could be cleared up. Until this is done, the 
                reliability of either book is questionable. As for the music, 
                we are still at the beginning and the is plenty of scope for further 
                studies. I would like to set the ball rolling by posting an article 
                on "The Triumph of Love" which is extracted from an 
                unpublished (and, without drastic revision, unpublishable) book 
                I wrote on Stanford’s songs in 1994. As both writers have pointed 
                out, we know nothing about Stanford’s more intimate personal feeling 
                towards his wife, and neither of them have picked up the fact 
                that this work (about which Rodmell is scathing and Dibble offers 
                no comment) coincided with his 25th wedding anniversary. 
                In view of the involvement of Edmond Holmes, the author of the 
                texts, with their pre-marriage period this can hardly be a coincidence 
                so perhaps something can be gleaned from a study of this work? 
                I also wish to make more widely available two articles which I 
                published in British Music Society News some time ago, "Stanford 
                and Musical Quotation" and "Stanford’s Couples", 
                since I feel that both of them suggest lines for further enquiry. 
                So the interested reader will shortly find the following material 
                posted on the site:
              
              Errors and discrepancies in two recent books 
                on Stanford
              
              Stanford, Edmond Holmes and "Triumph of 
                Love"
              
              Stanford and Musical Quotation
              
              Stanford’s Couples
              
              Christopher Howell
              
               
              Charles 
                Villiers Stanford: Man and Musician by 
                Jeremy Dibble (Oxford 2002, 535 pp) £65 
                Charles Villiers Stanford by Paul Rodmell (Ashgate 2002, 
                495 pp) £57.50 [CH] 
                ERRORS 
                AND DISCREPANCIES IN TWO RECENT BOOKS ON STANFORD
                STANFORD, 
                EDMOND HOLMES AND "THE TRIUMPH OF LOVE" 
                STANFORD 
                AND MUSICAL QUOTATION