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Seen
and Heard Interview
Never just the
bridesmaid, often the (blushing)
bride!
Jim Pritchard meets Anthony Negus (JPr)
As (admittedly adjusted) clichéd
phrases go, the one in this title is
highly appropriate to the long career
in music of the conductor – and long
time member of the music staff at
Welsh National Opera – Anthony Negus.
Another such phrase is ‘Hey guys!
Let’s put on a show’ and if we 'marry'
the two ideas together they describe
Anthony’s current project at
Longborough where the full version of
Wagner’s Das Rheingold is
staged for the first time on 23rd
June. ‘Full’ is important here because
for many years Longborough has been
home to cycles of a cut-down Ring
in the Jonathan Dove version
originally used by the City of
Birmingham Touring Opera in 1990.
The Longborough Festival began in
1991. Martin Graham, a property
developer with a large house and
grounds in the Cotswolds, decided to
convert an old chicken barn into an
opera house. Sounds simple enough but
a rocky road of traffic, planning and
VAT rows had to be travelled before
the colonnaded Palladian building with
some of the red plush seats from the
old Royal Opera House, could be
established. It has been especially
refurbished and enlarged for the 2007
season. The audience, many wearing
black tie, picnic before and during
the performances in the gardens and
car park as they would do at
Glyndebourne upon which Longborough
evenings are modelled.
Anthony says that without Martin and
his wife Lizzie ‘None of this would
have happened’. He went on to explain
how ‘Martin seems to have something
guiding him on and he gives energy to
everyone to leads us on. I am very
fond of them both and I really clicked
with Martin when I met him for the
first time. It was while we were doing
the shorter version of the Ring
when I was feeling a little low for
whatever reason. I arrived and he was
playing the Furtwängler La Scala cycle
with Kirsten Flagstad and I heard this
and thought “Wow, yes of course, this
is why we are doing it” so I said to
Martin “You have really galvanised me
by this!” It is certainly not personal
ambition that is pushing them.’
Wagner and Anthony Negus is an
interesting story, so how did it all
begin? ‘Well, my parents took me to
Bayreuth when I was 15. I was already
showing interest in Wagner and they
loved Wagner as well. So they decided
to get tickets for the Ring and
they did that in 1961. My sister came
as well and it was the second year of
the Wolfgang Wagner/Rudolf Kempe
Ring. I went back the following
three years because I had the good
fortune to do an exchange visit with
the son of a dentist who only lived
seven minutes from the Festspielhaus.
So then I gained access to the
orchestra pit and felt so at home
there, I really loved it.'
'In those days Bayreuth was balanced
between the older school - because
Knappertsbusch was still there until
1964 and I heard him conduct
Parsifal - and there was Kempe who
was always someone I followed. Every
evening there was a different
conductor; there was Böhm doing
Tristan and then Kempe with the
Ring. Kempe’s interpretation was
more modern, more flowing, lighter in
texture and what I loved most was his
saving the big climax in the music
until it was really there. Sometimes
he almost went too far by suppressing
some of the climaxes along the way but
he had this wonderful sense of
structure and it was quite in contrast
to Solti at Covent Garden in the 1960s
that tended to go much more for the
moment.'
'In the ‘60s -1966 was the last time I
was there and I saw Parsifal
under Boulez and the Wieland Wagner
Tristan when it had reached its
full fruition with Nilsson, Windgassen
and Böhm. Several years later I
auditioned there and was engaged for
the music staff for1972 to 1973.’
Anthony had a long time association
and friendship with the legendary
British Wagner conductor Sir Reginald
Goodall and describes how this came
about. ‘It was of course through
hearing the famous The
Mastersingers that Goodall
conducted for Sadler’s Wells Opera as
it was then in 1968. Like many of my
contemporaries I was hearing a
Klangwelt, a ‘sound world’ we had
never heard before and that seemed to
come from another era. When I heard it,
I still had some doubts about the
sheer expansion of some of it but it
was such a new experience for me and I
just knew after that I must get to
know Goodall. Actually it was more
than that … I felt we were destined
and so I wrote to him and we actually
met by chance at a 1969 Glyndebourne
dress rehearsal of Pélleas er
Mélisande (one of his favourite
operas) so I asked if I could be a
voluntary assistant and did that since
I was free-lancing at the time.'
'I sat in on the rehearsals of The
Mastersingers at the London
Coliseum when they transferred it
there and subsequently helped him with
The Valkyrie which was the
beginning of the famous Coliseum
Ring Cycle. Then I got a job in
Germany and missed the rest of that
Ring unfortunately during my four
years there. Taking over from him in
1983 for the Welsh National Opera
performances of Parsifal was of
course entirely unexpected. He had
been working for months with the cast
and conducted one play through with
the orchestra in December 1982. At the
start of 1983 I was told he was ill
and would I mind taking the first
sectionals; and it grew from there so
I gradually took it all over. Although
he did come back and conduct a couple
of rehearsals, his withdrawal felt
inevitable though it did not come
until s week before the première and
they asked me to take over.'
Does Anthony have any special memory
of Goodall? ‘Well there are all sorts
of funny and wonderful moments in
rehearsal, many of which are well known, but
mine is a more personal memory. It was
just talking with him about life,
death and the world on a walk with him
in the Mumbles where his hotel was,
when we recorded Tristan at
Swansea’s Brangwyn Hall. It is a
picture of his face when he would kind
of stop and stand back on his heels.
It is the moment that just stays with
me. I felt that having worked with him
for so many weeks at a time, I was
internally tuned in anyway by that
stage so we had a kind of contact that
was becoming quite telepathic and I
treasure moments like that I had with
him.’
Anthony told me how he first came to
work at Longborough: ‘I was rung up at
the end of 1999 by Alan Privett the
director of the shortened Ring
and now the director for the full
version of Das Rheingold to say
they needed a conductor for the new
production of Siegfried and the
revival of The Valkyrie. The
original conductor Alistair Dawes had
withdrawn and so I thought it would be
a good opportunity to do my own thing.
I had some worries about that version
but looking back over 5 cycles for
Longborough and 2 for Pittsburgh in
2006 I am extremely grateful for the
experience and feel we managed to
invest something really Wagnerian into
it. I also think I managed to improve
certain things in Jonathan Dove’s
version as it had been prepared in
rather a hurried way.'
'I, of course, went back as much as I
could to Wagner’s original score and
generally rehashed a few moments - for
instance in Valkyrie Act I
there was a passage that had been
transposed to another key because of
the cut before it. However I managed
to write three bars of transition
music that got everything back to the
right key. What is important about
that is if the singer singing Sieglinde – it was her passage – goes
on to do the full version then it is
much better that what she is singing
is actually Wagner.'
'Now we are building on this past but
it is a new concept and Alan is very
anxious to point that out. We are
doing the real work with an orchestra
of nearly 60 players and no cuts. The
pit doors have been altered so there
is a bit more space and the theatre
has been enlarged and the roof raised.
We have a wonderful Norwegian designer
for the scenery and costumes, Kjell
Torrset, and we have gone beyond Longborough and Pittsburg for our
cast.’
With a singer of his in the cast, the
great Wagnerian bass-baritone Sir
Donald McIntyre was at the rehearsals
in Ealing where I talked to Anthony
and he even sang a couple of parts for
singers who were not there at the
time. Anthony has an association with
Sir Donald - dating from that 1983 Parsifal
to recent performances last year of
that opera in New Zealand - but he also
came into the Longborough Ring
once and I asked how that had come
about: ‘Brian Bannatyne-Scott did
three cycles in 2002 and for various
reasons withdrew and we needed another
Wotan and my wife, Carmen, urged me to
ask Donald because I was thinking “I
don’t think he would agree to do
this”. She said to try him and I was
surprised when he took to the idea and
said “Oh yes I’d like to do that (and)
it’s not a bad idea that it is not
such a full version”. Having Donald in
the cast is an inspiring experience
for everyone. He brought a special caché to those performances and to the
others in the cast by leading by his
example.'
'Conducting Parsifal in New
Zealand with Donald as Gurnemanz,
Simon O’Neill as Parsifal, Margaret
Medlyn as Kundry and Paul Whelan as
Amfortas was one of the more exciting
things I have done because I was being
invited to conduct a great orchestra,
the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra,
with this wonderful cast. It is due to
the loyalty of Donald who believed in
me that I got the job. He said we must
have Anthony Negus conduct and since I
am not a famous name they said they
did not know me, but Donald
insisted “He’s the man for the job!”
It was a great experience and with
modesty I can say that it came off
well.'
As we reached the end of our time
together I wanted to know what
Anthony’s aims are in a Wagner
performance: ‘Well it is for the
dramatic truth of it all. I try and
grasp what is implied behind the text.
The correct text declamation in the
right tempo and with the right
expression. The understanding of above
all when a motif appears for the first
time and considering the scale of its
significance, balancing out that with
recognising that when the moment comes
that it really is special. It seems to
me a real Wagnerian experience means
you come into the moment, so in Das
Rheingold for example when the
Rhinemaidens see the sun and we get
that magical awakening of the sleeping
gold, it bursts out with the trumpet
motif in C major, with cymbals and
triangle and into “Rheingold!” This
must be given expression of pure utter
joy because it is the only time in the
entire Ring that you get this
pure utter joy. It is complete
unadulterated joy yet later out of
that motif comes the most sinister of
ones in Götterdämmerung.'
'The more one understands how one thing
leads to another … that’s very
important I think. It was one of
Reggie Goodall’s favourite expressions
“one after the other” and that means
you have got to allow it to unfold. It
is a sense of pacing, it is not
whether it is fast or slow but you
have got to know where it is all
going, so it is my job as a conductor
to carry most understanding of the
piece as a musical whole because
everyone else has a certain part in
it. The conductor has got to have the
overall picture and the more
concentrated I am in the moment then
the more, I am totally convinced, this
will transmit to an intelligent
audience. Stand outside it, let it
unfold …but don’t interfere with it.’
Anthony looked back at other specially
fulfilling evenings for him on the
podium and mentioned a Khovanshchina
this April where he conducted the
last performance in Birmingham for WNO,
a Katya Kabanova in Llandudno
in 2004, other Parsifals in
Birmingham in 2003, as well as one or
two of his Mozart evenings. I enquired
whether he had any unfulfilled
ambitions and he replied: ‘My greatest
longing is to be involved in a
production of Die Meistersinger,
obviously I would like to conduct it
but more importantly would like to do
it in depth because that is something
I have not done yet.’ With Bryn Terfel
announced to be doing his first Hans
Sachs in a future WNO season in
Cardiff perhaps his chance is not too
far away?
Meanwhile this most genial, unassuming
and highly intelligent musician who
deserves to be much more widely known
than he is, can to be found at Longborough and he concluded by
adding: ‘I’m naturally concentrating
now on establishing as authentic a
Das Rheingold as we can do it and
I am concerned that every aspect
should be true. Of course I must say
we will not have 18 anvils … but we
will have anvils. Of course we are not
going to have the backing and
expansion to fall back on as in a
larger house but it is very exciting
to be involved with it. This year is a
fundamental one to see how it all
works and how realistic it is to do
Das Rheingold and then the other
Ring operas in such small
surroundings, but I am hopeful and
believe strongly in it.’
Jim Pritchard
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