Charlecote Park

The Borghese Table

I had a number of replies to my query about the Borghese table:

 

I asked: We know that William Beckford acquired the Borghese table in Paris and had it transported to Fonthill Abbey. As he made several trips to Paris does anyone know the date of the acquisition? Was it at Fonthill for the visit of Nelson in 1800?

From: Derek C Tilford

Hi Len,

I have just read your request for info relating to the Borghese table and when Beckford acquired it.

Two years ago, members of the Beckford Society descended on Charlecote with the aim of  identifying the items that George Hammond Lucy purchased at the Fonthill Abbey auction in 1823. They had with them a set of notes, which as the guide in the Hall, I noticed they were using as a reference. Being able to answer a number of their questions I asked whether, when they had finished in the house, I could have a copy of their notes.

You may be interested in the following which referred to the Borghese table in these notes:


The ‘Borghese' Table.

This 16th century slab of pietre dure was supposedly removed from the Borghese Palace in Rome and taken to Paris during the Napoleonic campaign in Italy. After purchasing it in Paris, Beckford then had the oak frame or base designed in the Elizabethan or Gothic style to suit its placement in the King Edward's Gallery at Fonthill Abbey. There is, however, very little evidence detailing how and when Beckford actually purchased it.

The pattern of precious stones, oriental onyx and jaspers set in geometric borders of arabesques is typical of the late 16th and 17th century Roman work, which suggests that the story of it being in the Borghese Palace is probably true.

Not only is this perhaps the most famous of all Beckford's furniture, it is also one of the greatest examples of pietre dure in the world. Its size, design and the Borghese provenance led to Lucy purchasing the table in 1823 for £1890, over half of the total amount he spent at the sale.


What I found interesting was a picture in these notes. I am oftened asked whether the table was ever used as a table. The picture in these notes shows the table in the King Edward's Gallery at Fonthill Abbey and it shows three objects placed on the table.

 

 

The table in the King Edward Gallery, Fonthill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another item of interest in these notes is a reference to oak tables in the picture of the Galleryl. It states that there were only four Oak Tables listed in the auction, they being sold as pairs in 1823 for £16.5.6d. It is thought that Lucy had two extra tables made to match. I have looked closely at all the tables at Charlecote and it is not evident which are the extra two tables. Knowing the expertise of James Wilcox and his mastery at carpentry, it would not surprise me if he had a hand in this exercise.

Derek

Thanks for the reply Derek although it does not add anything new unfortunately. I thought there might be an inventory of what Beckford bought but if the Beckford Society does not know then presumably no such inventory exists.

Their description rather implies that Napoleon took the table by force. However in 1803 Napoleons youngest daughter, Pauline, married Prince Camillo Borghese so there was a family connection and he may have just acquired the table that way. I don't know where it was kept in Paris.
Len


When telling the story of the table I always say "how it got from the Palace in Rome to Paris is a mystery, some assume that as Napoleon was roaming Europe on his campaigns, he saw it and as was his want, it followed him to Paris, however I point out, because of the marriage of a member of his family into the Borghesa family, he could have had a legitimate claim on it"

I seem to remember being told way back, that Beckford sighted the table in Paris while on his travels in the 1790s and purchased it, pointing out that when buying the table he only purchased the top, getting the legs made for him when he got it back to Fonthill Abbey.

It was interesting touring Madrid a couple of year ago with our U3A, to see two small pietre dure tables in the Prado Musuem. One of the tables which had some similarities to the Charlecote table, was described as made by Florentine craftsmen and was listed in an inventory of the Arsenal at Segovia in 1624. Comparing the two tables, because of similarities in design, you could almost believe that the same craftsmen had worked on both tables.



Derek C Tilford
Charlecote Guide - Saturday team

 

Ted (or Anne) also told me that Napoleon put the table top on a gun carriage to take it over the Alps rather than by sea. I always tell that story and that Pickfords brought it  by barge to Stratford and then by cart to Charlecote.

Well closer to home, have you been to Powis castle? There is a table there that has an identical pattern to ours (as far as memory can be trusted) but I thought it slightly smaller. The workmanship is crude compared to ours and Ted and I discussed it and came to the conclusion that it might have been  an apprentice piece.

Len


I have always been aware of the second table at Powis Castle. We were told about it by George Shears and the history of the two tables when I first started at Charlecote.as part of our 'indoctrination'

That second table was an insurance by the artisans in Florence who realised that the Borghese commission was very important. To cover themselves in case anything went wrong with the main table, that was destined for the Borghese Palace, the artisans had the apprentices learning the trade by working on a second identical table. If anything untoward happened with the prime table eg base marble cracked, all the artisans would have needed to do would have been to swing over onto the second table and continue without loss of too much time.

As it turned out the artisans table was perfect, and on completion was sent down to the palace in Rome. In theory the second table should then have been smashed up as the Borghese's expect special items that they order to be unique. Obviously with a copy around, the artisans had a problem.. They reasoned that as the Borghese's didn't know about the second table there wasn't a problem at present. If the Borghese's never heard about the second table the artisans were on to a winner if they managed to secrete it away, with the possibility of making a few extra bucks (sorry lira) on the way.

So they managed to arrange for the table to be taken to England where it was obtained in the 1620s by the Clive family. They wanted to place it in the long gallery at Powis, but weighing approx two tons it was too heavy for the floor. Instead they had an extension to the long gallery built and the table was placed in the extension before they installed the windows. Then they had another problem, with the object weighing 2 tons, what was strong enough to support the weight of this table top. The answer was a four poster bed structure that was inverted with a couple of extra posts added to support the table. That is what was used and that is where it has remained - upstairs in the extension at the end of the long gallery

I revisited Powis a couple of years ago when returning from visiting my daughter on Anglesey. Seeing the table again after a period of some ten years, I was surprised at the finish of the table. It looked as if someone had painted a coating of varnish over the top surface which had become pitted. I did not remember it like that previously.
I asked the room steward whether anything had been done to the table recently and she assured me that as far as she knew, it had always been like that.. The structure under the table is obviously quite different from that made by Beckford, but at Powis, as I talked to the steward, children were playing in the box space under the table. Also I was amazed on questioning the steward, she was not aware that there was a second table at Charlecote. As far as I know, the second table is as near to the size of the original as possible, as it would have needed to conform to the original Borghese specification.

In order to transport the table top it is supported by wooden crating but carried on its side, in this way it will not flex and crack or break.

Yours aye,

Derek

I am not so sure about this. Both Ted and I feel the table at Powys is smaller. The work is decidedly inferior so could never have been passed off as the real thing. It also lacks the central onyx. We think it was just an apprentice piece. Clearly some measurements are required.

 

And a communication from Stewart Scott

Dear Len,

 In connection with your enquiry about the Beckford table.

This is not directly about the table but it may interest you-you may of course already know!

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I recently visited Abbotsford - Sir Walter Scott's house in Scotland. In the Library are 2 elaborately carved chairs.

 'I found two large elbow chairs in boxwood-perfectly entire. Mr Swaby assures me that they came from Rome' says Scott's publisher Archibald Constable in May 1822 and he then gave them to Sir Walter.

The Abbotsford guide book then says,

'The Abbe Celotti imported the chairs along with the Borghese Table for Fonthill Abbey, and as they are in the style and quality of Brustalon, it is more than likely that they came from his workshop.

This made me wonder if the table and chairs were were shipped together and Beckford had them together. 

Last year I went to Belvoir Castle and they have 6 chairs in the Picture Gallery, that appear to be identical,

Their guide book says,

'6 chairs, exquisitely carved from the Borghese Palace, Rome',

then in a picture caption,

'chairs 1700-20 which were acquired for the 5th Duke from the Borghese Palace in Rome in 1820'

So was there a set of 8 chairs along with the table?

 Stewart Scott

This date may be too late see comments below

 

 


From Ted and Anne Veich

Building of Fonthill commenced 1796, original design by James Wyatt who was currently working for King George III on ‘modernising’ Windsor Castle in te ‘Gothic’ style

Despite England being at war with France, Beckford was given pwrmission in 1801 to travel to France where he rented Hotel Kinsky, a large house in Paris. He lived there for about two years and there are records of his buying furniture, pictures, Japanese ware and Ceramics.

I have not been able to confirm when the King Edward III gallery was completed at Fonthill but it was possibly after the visit to Paris.

There are records that show that between 1810 and 1818 Beckford commissioned several ‘Jacobean’ style items of furniture, some from James Wyattville, including the four small oak tables currently at Charlecote and the support for the Borghese table top.

There is a possibility that the top was bought at auction in England as there are records of sales in London. The Abbe Celotti was a dealer who worked in London and Paris and is thought to have worked on behalf of Beckord for some of his acquisitions. His speciality was the import of Italian treasures.

 


 

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